Satellites?

T12

T12

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Does This Look Like Any Satellite You Know Of?

Well it did at first, that is until we had a closer look!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tapten/message/5654

I see what appears to be bright stars that move? accross the night skies between 0200-0400 every morning without fail. I often wondered if they were satellites yet for some reason this would not explain the unusual movements at high speed velocities I have often noticed while observing some of these objects. I have told many people about this in the past visits to a variety of webforums & chatrooms and suggested that if anyone has access to a ccd, digital camera & telescope to look for these objects and get some photos! Regardless if this person stubled accross this discovery by accident, I am glad to see that someone finally did get a photo, these are clearly "Not" satellites as our appointed officials would like us to believe!

We need to pay closer attention to what is going on here, and again I will suggest to you all, if you have the equipment and the opportunity to use it, Please get out there and start shooting some photos, the people need to know what these things are.

---Gary Voss

San Diego, CA.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo312.htm

The following are email responses I received from my list...

"Albert V. Nickitin" <[email protected]> wrote:
From: "Albert V. Nickitin"
To: "Gary Voss"
Subject: Re: Satellites?
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 02:39:20 +0300

Dear Gary,

We, certainly, may not to assert, that at any moment (in the past, the present or the future) on our firmament the flying device of "newcomers" may not appear. Opposite, numerous cases of occurrence UFO are quite authentic. At the same time, believe me as to the reserve officer of engineering armies in the field of a radar-location and antiaircraft defense: anything is not present flying above us, that would not be on the account - from the remote galaxies up to the fixing bolts which have fallen off from space station.

At us just yesterday have condemned for 14 years of imprisonment
physics from Novosibirsk which has told to the Chinese colleagues about the scientific data earlier already published -
for "treachery". However, I hope, I do not give out any secrets if I shall tell, that else in my student's years at my faculty already was (on special range) a 96-meter radio-telescope a reflector. With its help, its electronic equipment of tracking it was possible to see ALL. My future wife those years with the help of this telescope studied features of "subjects" on a surface of the Moon that became her subject MS of degree research. And UFO-group, formed by academician Troitskiy, always and up to now for anything would not pass anything "unusual". They the big fanatics of all it, and their qualification the highest. The electronics equipment, thank God, too is, as they create its, being one of " the electronic centres "...

As to concrete assumptions the objects mentioned by You basically are space "dust": canning packing of the products, the thrown out containers, fallen off elements of collapsing solar batteries etc. It easily is possible to be convinced of each concrete case that not of what we with You always think.
For this purpose visit on object not simply a camera, and the chamber, which complete with an optical telescope enough. At you, for certain, it not a problem as I believe. You see even at us, - at our Russian poverty in the present period, - such telescopes are in some high schools ( grammar schools)
and Pioneer Clubs (scout clubs, your way?).

And, at last, pair words about mentioned by you "... the unusual
movements at high speed velocities... " these objects. The matter is that usually the part of space dust loses the stability of a presence in an initial orbit and starts fall - because has no the rocket engine for maintenance of stability. Fall occurs on a spiral trajectory: with increase of linear speed and downturn of height above a surface of the Earth. It also creates sensation of "high" speed velocities. The matter is that even if linear speed (dx/dt) object would be in H/h time less speed of the satellite (H - height of the satellite, h height of your object z), owing to H > h (in some times) ANGULAR speed (namely you observe it) would seem to You to equal speed of the satellite. But, as also linear speed of falling object in some times more than linear speed of the satellite for this
reason ANGULAR speed of moving also seems huge. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hence, anything unusual in it is not present.

P.S. I ask me to excuse, if all this does not coincide with Your
belief as in an antiquity it is told:
"Though you, Platon, me and the friend, but the true for me is even more expensive!" /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sincerely yours

Albert

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Dan LaRochelle <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey Gary,

I had a very interesting experience a few days ago out
here in Santee.

I watched with facinations as several small silvery
balls played in the clounds above our houses out here.

If it had continued a little longer, I would have been
able to get it all on video.

Regards,

Dan LaRochelle

P.S.
My wife was witness to it also.


Glad to hear from you Dan, Happy Holidays to You & Your Family!

Below are some other replies to this email....

HBCC UFO Research <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey Gary

Kind of strange, but if something would be flying across the sky
every morning at the times gives I would really believe what ever they were to be man made. It sort of is a dead give away due to them being seen on a regular basis....

My Point Exactly!

I agree with what my friend Sandra says here in her reply:

Sandra McFarland <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] (Sandra McFarland)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:16:10 -0700
To: [email protected] (Gary Voss)
Subject: Re: Satellites?

Good Afternoon Gary, You and I both know this craft pictured is one of "our" unacknowledged aircraft built at the skunk works. This design has been flying for over 20 years and is reputed to be both in-atmosphere and space capable.

The regularity of your observed time alone
is extremely suspicious; we are seeing pilots doing regularly
scheduled practice flights.

Thanks for the link and the beautiful photo
of something that "does not exist."

Happy Thanksgiving to You and Your Family, Sandra

...And Happy-Happy To You & Yours Sandra!
 
Hi T12,

Whether it is alien or terrestrial in its design, there is little doubt that the shape of the triangle which the vehicle exhibits points towards the triangle as one of the central figures of sacred geometry. Both the triangle, and the first of the Platonic solids, the tetrahedron.

Whether visitors or our own government, those who deploy the technology have shown an ability to "crack the code" of sacred geometry and its relationship to the Massive SpaceTime Matrix that we live in.

The world as we know it will change drastically once this technology comes out of the dark and into the light of global awareness.

RMT
 
Yes indeed The world as we know it 'will' change drastically - once- this technology comes out of the dark, and into the light of global awareness. But When??? when will our self appointed overlords with a God-Complex ever let go of it from their wretched hands before another power monger married at the hip loving bean counter grabs the lid back on the God-Forsaken secrecy agenda again? This Friken waste of money, Time, and Lives by "Official Denial crap justified in the name (hidding behind Mamma's skirt) National Security issues must Stop!
 
Looks like some sort of current, real, stealth bomber, not a satelite. How could you photograph a satelite to that detail from earth with a massive reflecting telescope? What about exposure? There is alot up there we don't know about, maybe it is not a telescope, a weapon, maybe it is a telescope, one we are not meant to see.

Good Scientist
 
Aurora... my goodness... wow... we meet at last. Aurora. Thats what we call it. In a basic description, if i remember correctly it is much like the Black Manta. One big difference... Aurora has no verticle surfaces anywhere on the plane. Said to reach tremendous speeds and make 90 degree turns. Assumed to be radio controled since no human can survive the G-forces. Wow, thanks for showing me this... heres a link.



www.aemann.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/aircraft/black/aurora/aurora4.htm

And its not a bomber, more like used for recon. missions. Sorry if the link doesn't work.
 
Good_Scientist (providing that you are a scientist)

"Looks like some sort of current, real, stealth bomber, not a satelite."
My Point Exactly!

How could you photograph a satelite to that detail from earth with a massive reflecting telescope?

There are pleanty of merchants available that offer the means of acquiring very powerful telescopes that would amaze you as to the detailed images from space you can acquire with them. Incidently, I took no such photo, nor did I say it 'was' a Satellite!

What about exposure? There is alot up there we don't know about, maybe it is not a telescope,
are you serious? the photo here sure does not look like any 'telescope' I've ever seen (LoL)
a weapon, maybe it is a telescope, one we are not meant to see." - you got to be kidding right?

Look, if you have something serious to discuss here then do so, but seriously, I cannot make any sense from your statement here??? so what's your point?
 
Aurora... my goodness... wow... we meet at last. Aurora. Thats what we call it. In a basic description, if i remember correctly it is much like the Black Manta. One big difference... Aurora has no verticle surfaces anywhere on the plane. Said to reach tremendous speeds and make 90 degree turns. Assumed to be radio controled since no human can survive the G-forces. Wow, thanks for showing me this... heres a link.

Deany,
thanks for sharing.
now this I 'do' understand ~

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It wasn't really that difficult to understand. Puting aside the rubbish quality of the photograph for a minute, you were basically asking if that was a satelite or not, right? If that be the case then I told you I thought it was not. It does look like the computer generated 'aurora', though I doubt this actually exists.

Good Scientist
 
How could you photograph a satelite to that detail from earth with a massive reflecting telescope?
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That is an incorrect statement. Not only do you not need a "massive" reflecting telescope, you don't even need a particularly large one to view or photograph objects in earth orbit.

HERE is a guy who lives near me who does a lot of astronomical imaging with a 10 inch scope. He's had the space station cross the field of view of this scope and you can see some excellent detail. So the size of the scope is not an issue at all. In fact, the harder problem is compensating for the earth's rotation and the satellite's motion around the earth to keep the target centered in the field of view.

So what kind of scientist are you?
RMT
 
Could not find any pictures of Earth satelites except the moon on that site. I am a Physical Chemist.
The problem with this thread is that it has not been correctly titled. It should be 'These are not satellites!', It also contradicts its point instantly, I have just brought clarity to the fact that it is not a telescope image of satellite, and that it is a photograph. I have also said what I believe it to be.

Here is a site that shows you pictures of low geostaionary satellites, look at their detail, using a 12" scope.

http://satobs.org/telescope.html

I therefore doubt what you have said is true and stand by my original statement as CORRECT!

Good Scientist
 
Enough already,
I did not come here to instigate an argument with anyone, nor do I have the "Time" to waste arguing who's right, or wrong about the 'clarity' of proper phrasing of content! Look Mr. scientist-chemist, we 'can' both agree that it's not a satellite, therefore this point has been clearly made between us all, now please if we are to continue, let's do so by discussing the oddities of peculiar satellites that in our opinion may not fit that category, and speculate what they may be.

This is the intention of the post here.

Thanks for your input.
 
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