Question What kind of gear would a 177th Temporal Reconnaissance Diamondback Fireteam equip?

[JudasTitor]

What kind of gear are our boys utilizing? Where did they get their inspiration? Who is paying for all of this?

 

[Jay Walker]

As for the funding.

Star Trek had a version of Earth where the concept of money was antiquity, because technology evolved beyond traditional monetary systems. So defensive weapons systems and exploratory vessels were built effortlessly at no cost.

However, in Starship Troopers there was one centralized global government, so likely they funded their "The only good bug, is a dead bug" military effort through global taxation.

 

[JudasTitor]

As for the funding.

Star Trek had a version of Earth where the concept of money was antiquity, because technology evolved beyond traditional monetary systems. So defensive weapons systems and exploratory vessels were built effortlessly at no cost.

However, in Starship Troopers there was one centralized global government, so likely they funded their "The only good bug, is a dead bug" military effort through global taxation.

Oh we are definitely headed for a John Titor edition of Starship Troopers.

I'm curious what role robots & Ai will be playing in daily life by 2050 though?

Pay real close attention to what I recently found below. FloridaMan is very busy and very quiet. FloridaMan is now in control of the federal government.

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[JudasTitor]

Unforeseen consequences.

 

[Darby]

What is the mission profile for a reconnaissance team? Any reconnaissance team? Answer: To gather timely, accurate, relevant and reliable information tailored to the consumers' needs as outlined in the mission brief while avoiding detection or engagement. This is especially so for a LRRP Team. And time traveling from 2036 to 1998 is the LRRP of all LRRPs.

So, "Wearing heavy combat armor, carrying large weapons, flame throwers and the like is to reconnaissance as [blank] is to [blank]." Fill in the blanks.

Weapons and gear? Communications device, night vision/telescopic vision device, 9mm pistol, two extra mags and a K-Bar. If you need bigger weapons or more ammo than that your already F'ed. Frankly, if you engage in any fire-fight you've blown the mission.

 

[JudasTitor]

What is the mission profile for a reconnaissance team? Any reconnaissance team? Answer: To gather timely, accurate, relevant and reliable information tailored to the consumers' needs as outlined in the mission brief while avoiding detection or engagement. This is especially so for a LRRP Team. And time traveling from 2036 to 1998 is the LRRP of all LRRPs.

So, "Wearing heavy combat armor, carrying large weapons, flame throwers and the like is to reconnaissance as [blank] is to [blank]." Fill in the blanks.

Weapons and gear? Communications device, night vision/telescopic vision device, 9mm pistol, two extra mags and a K-Bar. If you need bigger weapons or more ammo than that your already F'ed. Frankly, if you engage in any fire-fight you've blown the mission.

Would you suggest that the covert nature of the 177th most likely traces it's agency history back to the WW2 OSS and their clandestine operations in Nazi occupied Europe?

Consider for a moment the tools of the trade at the time:

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The more I look at the 1998 - 2000 postings, the more I am convinced that Timetravel_00 was an Ai program from 2036. What the broader implications are for the agency, I do not know. An Ai operating in 1998 could essentially create a chicken & egg scenario that leads to its own development & time travel.

 

[Darby]

the covert nature of the 177th most likely traces it's agency history back to the WW2 OSS

No. It traces its history back to an online post circa 2004. There is no actual "177th". The 177th what? Regimental Combat Team (RCT - ad hoc brigade sized infantry element)? An Army Group (two or more divisions)? US Army unit identifiers numbered 100 or greater are usually RCTs and Army Groups. It's certainly not a recon team identifier. This unit identifier was made up by a (clueless) civilian for an online gag. In the US Army divisions 1-25 are regular army, 26-75 are National Guard divisions and above 75 are wartime divisions and other irregular divisions and army group formations. Exception: The 75th Infantry is a reserved identifier for the 75th Infantry Regiment (Rangers).

The WWII OSS was not a strict covert intelligence organization. It was operationally like the Green Berets, a Tier 1 unconventional warfare organization that also had a covert intelligence branch. The Tier 1 operators and covert spies operated separately. The covert intelligence side operated in silence and absolutely avoided ever engaging the enemy if at all possible. The Tier 1 combat teams eliminated enemy soldiers and blew up stuff far behind enemy lines often working with, training, equipping and deploying allied resistance. One command with two completely different missions and mission load-outs.

Immediately after Japan surrendered in 1945 the OSS was dissolved. In 1947 under the National Security Act the CIA was formed and populated by the former covert intelligence branch members of the OSS. The 75th Infantry Regiment (Ranger) was re-formed in 1969 and the Green Berets were formed in 1952. This combined the former WWII 1st Ranger Battalion and the Tier 1 unconventional warfare component of OSS.

No. The unofficial term Tier 1, 2 and 3 classifications did not exist during WWII.

 

[Darby]

JT,

If you're going to design a "look" and load-out for the spies in the 177th they should never look like Sean Connery or any other Bond archetype. They should look like a nobody; plain but not ugly or dowdy. Average everything from age, height and weight to how they dress and the car that they drive. Nothing about how they look or act should ever attract people's attention or cause them to even be remembered five minutes later.

Give them trade-craft because they are spies and that's part of the job. If you've done what's in the first paragraph you've already started the trade-craft; the perfect disguise so (s)he can hide in plain sight.

 

[JudasTitor]

JT,

If you're going to design a "look" and load-out for the spies in the 177th they should never look like Sean Connery or any other Bond archetype. They should look like a nobody; plain but not ugly or dowdy. Average everything from age, height and weight to how they dress and the car that they drive. Nothing about how they look or act should ever attract people's attention or cause them to even be remembered five minutes later.

Give them trade-craft because they are spies and that's part of the job. If you've done what's in the first paragraph you've already started the trade-craft; the perfect disguise so (s)he can hide in plain sight.

Darby,

I agree. Our time traveler is most certainly a plain Jaine / John Doe that you couldn't recognize if they were your next door neighbor, aside from their operational behavior & the tools of their trade-craft. Hence the obvious agency influence of the OSS/CIA/KGB/Mi6.

Let's assume a theoretical assignment; You are henceforth charged with the institution of a time travel reconnaissance program. How will you proceed with implementation?

 

[Jay Walker]

Our time traveler is most certainly a plain Jaine / John Doe that you couldn't recognize if they were your next door neighbor, aside from their operational behavior & the tools of their trade-craft.

According to simulation theory, the odds of us being the only, or even an early version of the simulation is almost impossible considering the possibility of infinite versions makes us virtually timeless.

If time travel was possible, what are the chances of almost everyone being time travelers? I would say more than plausible.

 

[JudasTitor]

According to simulation theory, the odds of us being the only, or even an early version of the simulation is almost impossible considering the possibility of infinite versions makes us virtually timeless.

If time travel was possible, what are the chances of almost everyone being time travelers? I would say more than plausible.

We are all most certainly time traveling with proof. Consider for a moment the relative time rate in the Andromeda Galaxy vs our current relative time rate on the edge of the Milkyway Galaxy. The rate at which time is passing in each galaxy respectively is not equivalent based on:

A) Galactic SuperMassive BlackHole Mass
B)Galactic SuperMassive BlackHole Rotation Rate
C) Total Galactic Mass
D) Total Glactic Rotation Rate
E) SpaceTime warpage of BlackHoles orbiting Galactic SuperMassive BlackHole