Just for fun...let's track Web Bot predictions!

RainmanTime

RainmanTime

Super Moderator
Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

I figured this was the best forum for this kind of thing, mostly because so many time travel claimants have attempted (and virtually all have failed) to predict future events as a means to convince us they are real time travelers.

So, while the Web Bot Project does not claim to be a defacto time traveler, people have made claims that it has "successfully predicted future events." So let's see what the Web Bot allegedly has in store for us. The following is a snapshot of the current Wikipedia page showing future Web Bot predictions:

<font color="red"> "July 8th, 2010 - The web bot predicts a major terrorist attack

November 11th, 2010 - The web bot warns of a big tipping point possibly World War III

Major catastrophe in 2012 - The Web Bot has gained most of its notoriety for contributing to the 2012 phenomenon by predicting that a cataclysm will devastate the planet in the year 2012, possibly a reversing of Earth's magnetic poles or a small series of nuclear attacks leading up to a major attack during the year. The prediction does not necessarily call for a complete end of the world." [/COLOR]

So those are the dates we should be looking for, with our first checkpoint less than 3 months from now. I will update this post on that day in July, as a minimum, and I would also encourage folks to keep an eye on the above Wiki page, and post any CHANGES to these predictions between now and July 8th.

Should be interesting, no?

RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

so many time travel claimants have attempted (and virtually all have failed)
Click to expand...

Hmmm...that's gotta be one of the first times I've seen you leave room for doubt that all are fake. Are you saying there are some that have not failed, even if it is such a very small amount?

I never did get web bot any how, isn't it just based on web chatter and what people are talking about? That makes it so biased it's not even funny. So if the world were all talking about flying pigs...next thing ya know web bot would be predicting flying pigs.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Hmmm...that's gotta be one of the first times I've seen you leave room for doubt that all are fake. Are you saying there are some that have not failed, even if it is such a very small amount?
Click to expand...

Not at all, they are all bogus. What I am allowing for are those inane "predictions" that anyone can make. Example: Zeshua used the word "assassinations" and Peter Novak grabs onto it and runs with it and tries to fit all square pegs in that round hole. But in reality, is a single word really a prediction when it is quite possible assassinations have never ceased since mankind first became a political animal? Perhaps assassinations just became harder to identify, which is exactly the trend Peter is playing on to try and validate Zeshua.

Here, let me give another example of what I am talking about: "There will be a large earthquake in Southern California before the end of 2012."

Anyone can make weak predictions like that and know they will come true. All I have to do is when an EQ happens here, no matter the magnitude, I just have to convince you that this is the one I "predicted" when I used the aspecific term "large".

RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Here's a thought, maybe we could have a board for registering predictions. You go in there, type out your prediction, it's timestamped, and then we can follow it up with DING or BONK. (Although, Art Bell might kick our ass, maybe HIT or MISS.)

It could engender some decent debate, we'd need a Wapner-like mod to make the final call as to hit or miss.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Well, our first Web Bot prediction date has come and gone:

July 8th, 2010 - The web bot predicts a major terrorist attack
Click to expand...

Uhhhhh, unless we are considering the decision by LeBron James to bail out of Cleveland and head to Miami a "major terrorist attack", I have not seen anything in the news. Of course, many people in Cleveland who were hoping LeBron would get them an NBA Championship ring may very well feel their city has been terrorized! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif

Anyway, strike 1 for the Web Bot in this little survey...
RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

What is even more interesting is to see how someone is using Wikipedia to revise the history of the Web Bot's predictions. Here is the current entry under Future Predictions on the Web Bot Wiki page I cited above. Compare it to the words I captured from my original post:

July 11th, 2010 - The web bot predicts building of tension language, leading to the events of November 8th. [15]
November 8th, 2010 - The web bot warns of a big tipping point, possibly World War III.[16]
Click to expand...

So it used to be JULY 8 and NOVEMBER 11. And what was a clear prediction for a "major terrorist attack" has now been softened such that it could be anything that represents "building of tension language". And looking at the bottom of the Wiki page to see when it was last modified we see:

This page was last modified on 7 July 2010 at 17:30
Click to expand...

Maybe Wiki should enact a policy such as we have just enacted here at TTI and prevent changes to any pages that predict the future? :D

Pretty silly, I would say!
RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Maybe Wiki should enact a policy such as we have just enacted here at TTI and prevent changes to any pages that predict the future? :D
Click to expand...

Yes that would make it more fun to see what was predicted and failed versus what was predicted instead of just seeing what was predicted.

Still fun to see though.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Uhhhhh, unless we are considering the decision by LeBron James to bail out of Cleveland and head to Miami a "major terrorist attack", I have not seen anything in the news. Of course, many people in Cleveland who were hoping LeBron would get them an NBA Championship ring may very well feel their city has been terrorized!
Click to expand...

Haha that's a good one. Sorry I don't have much else to say. Saw that in the news also but no major terrorist attack though.

These web bot predictions can be funny or at least you make it out to be.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Lord knows I don't want to encourage Web Bot, but, it only missed a major terrorist attack by 3 days. I'm pretty sure the Uganda attack qualifies.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Lord knows I don't want to encourage Web Bot, but, it only missed a major terrorist attack by 3 days. I'm pretty sure the Uganda attack qualifies.
Click to expand...

Well, that would be OK...except for the fact that the "prediction" was changed to soften-up what they were really predicting.

In reality, the "Web Bot" itself never predicted anything like this. Rather, it was a person who interpreted the Web Bot "data" that came up with this prediction. And as the time got closer, they softened the words.

So if they had NOT changed the prediction, I might have even given consideration to "3 days off being close enough."

But come on.... I can change stuff from now to kingdom come when I see my predictions not working. In fact, that was exactly why we made the recent change at this board!
RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Well, since we now have a record of what was said, prior to any softening or hardening made by the Web Bot priesthood, what would you think if, say, Israel launched a strike against Iran on 5 Nov? I mean, that would be pretty statisically unlikely for anybody to nail two big time events within a few days. At least that's what I think... I respect your opinion, though, because you seem to give this stuff a lot more thought than I do.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Well, since we now have a record of what was said, prior to any softening or hardening made by the Web Bot priesthood, what would you think if, say, Israel launched a strike against Iran on 5 Nov?
Click to expand...

To be honest, it would be hard to say what I would think until it happens. Mostly because, as we saw in this case, it is not so much the prediction and the end-point that matters, but all the intervening activity. For example, if more "massaging" of the Web Bot predictions by the priesthood (like that, BTW) happens between now and NOV, such that the "tipping point" prediction is further softened... then all bets are off.

And again, one must note that the prediction (currently) is not specific to "Israel will strike Iran." THAT would be something we could measure against. But when you use vague words like "tipping point", well... people can and will drive a truck through that (i.e. make anything that happens fit it). I call that the Peter Novak syndrome. :D

But let me take another snapshot of the entire Web Bot Wiki page again, just so we can track it in this thread as the months progress towards NOV...

RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Just a snapshot of what the Web Bot Wiki says today for "Future Predictions":

<font color="red"> November 8th, 2010 - The web bot warns of a big tipping point, possibly World War III.[15]
Major catastrophe in 2012 - The Web Bot has gained most of its notoriety for contributing to the 2012 phenomenon by predicting that a cataclysm will devastate the planet in the year 2012, possibly a reversing of Earth's magnetic poles or a small series of nuclear attacks leading up to a major attack during the year. The prediction does not necessarily call for a complete end of the world.[16][17][18][19]
The following come from the Web Bot Project Blogspot report on a radio interview with High and Ure:

No warfare between Israel and Iran, at least not until November.
Six very large earthquakes are yet to come during the rest of 2010.
A major tipping point will occur between November 8th – 11th, 2010, followed by a 2-3 month release period. This tipping point appears to be US-centric, and could be a dramatic world-changing event like 9-11 that will have rippling after-effects. The collapse of the dollar might occur in November.
From July 11th, 2010 onward, civil unrest will take place, possibly driven by food prices skyrocketing, and the devaluation of the dollar.[20]
No exact information on the December 14th missile launch (beginning of World War III) has been confirmed, but the predictions show it may happen.
A second depression, triggered by mass layoffs, bankruptcies, and the popping of the "derivatives bubble," will see people moving out of cities.
After March 2011, the revolution wave will settle down into a period of reformation.
A "data gap" has been found between early 2012 running through May 2013. One explanation is that "our civilization gets knocked back to a pre-electronic state," such as brought about by devastating solar activity.
A new benign form of capitalism will emerge during 2017-2020. [21] [/COLOR]

RMT
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

I should point out that Wikipedia does archive all page revisions going back to inception of the article, so (anonymous editing not withstanding) you should be able to tell what was changed, when it was changed and who changed it.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

ddsilver,

I mean, that would be pretty statisically unlikely for anybody to nail two big time events within a few days.
Click to expand...

What is the metric that says that it is statistically unlikely? By that I mean, given the precise wording of the prediction and the very specific time frame given versus all events across the globe what metric does one use to say that one event is or isn't what is predicted without reference to personal prejudice? (And, yes, I've used the term "personal prejudice" in two posts tonight.)

Terrorism is an act of great political/religious motivated violence committed locally by a self defined group of disaffected people with the intent of instilling an unfounded sense of fear of vulnerability in the general populace to similar acts where the threat far exceeds their ability and where the intent is to affect government policy.

Not every act of great violence is terrorism. Criminal? Act of war? Yes. Terrorism? Not necessarily.

Of late we've fallen into the trap of allowing politics to dictate on a whim the meaning of terrorism and to label acts of violence as such without reference to any actual definition. Threats of violence scares and even terrifies some people, of course. That doesn't make it terrorism.

And don't feel as if I'm making fun of you here. I live in California where our idiots in the legislature have defined terrorist threats to mean making threats of great bodily harm where the victim reasonably concludes that you have the intent to carry through and where you have the present ability to carry them through. Thus if al-Qaida threatens to place a nuclear device on top of LA City Hall and detonate it and Johnny threatens to kick Freddy's ass from LA City Hall to Pasadena City Hall and back (which could well kill Freddy) they would both be charged with and face the same rather minor felony penalties under the same statute. So in California we've greatly diluted the meaning of the term "terrorism".
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Well, since no one is holding us to any legal standards, we can always use the hypothetical "reasonable person". A reasonable person would understand that the Uganda bombing was an act of terrorism. Kicking someone's ass up Magic Mountain and back down Colorado Blvd, a reasonable person would believe to be aggravated assault, not an act of terror. Courts can't do this, because lawyers love to argue over the definition of "reasonable person".
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

The web bots speak of a deteriorating economy. Debunkers claim we are in a recovery. With the web bots I tend to agree, things are getting worse.

TAKEN FROM http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/30/news/economy/gdp/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&amp;hpt=Sbin
"People are continuing to cut back, and that could mean that third-quarter growth will be the worst since the end of the recession," Gault said. "The slowing growth path leaves the possibility of a double-dip recession on the table."
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

HDR, that's not an either/or proposition... just because WebBot predicts the economy is going to get bad does not mean that WebBot heretics predict it's going to get better.

The guys in your link are using the science of economics to make their predictions (a dismal science, to be sure). WebBot is using the non-empirical, non-reproduceable "science" of web traffic analysis to make the same prediction.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Well, since no one is holding us to any legal standards, we can always use the hypothetical "reasonable person". A reasonable person would understand that the Uganda bombing was an act of terrorism. [Kicking someone's ass down Magic Mountain Parkway all the way to Colorado Blvd is an act that a] reasonable person would believe to be aggravated assault, not an act of terrorism. Courts can't do this, because lawyers love to argue over the definition of "reasonable person".
Click to expand...
- [...] paraphrase added by Darby

Now I do agree with you here, at least in principle.

Though your profile has always listed you as USAF personnel in Kansas your reference to the SF Valley indicates you are from LA County (or at least SoCal). In California the legislature has completely obfuscated the actual meaning of the term "terrorism". Your reference to kicking someone's ass from Magic Mountain all the way down to Colorado Blvd is, in fact, felony battery. But in California it can also be an act of terrorism even tough it does not involve threats against the general population, threats of using WMD's, a "bitch" with the government, etc. In California an individual person can be convicted of "terrorism" for threatening one other individual person (Sec. 422 of the California Penal Code). It's all about "political correctness" and criminalizing what people are thinking rather than what they actually do. The same applies to "hate crimes". In California we enhance the penalties for certain criminal acts based on what the jury believe the accused was thinking when the crime was committed. It's shooting fish in a barrel because no one but the accused can know what s/he was thinking when the crime occurred.
 
Re: Just for fun...let\'s track Web Bot predictions!

Web bot update:

<font color="red"> "From July 11th, 2010 onward, civil unrest will take place, possibly driven by food prices skyrocketing, and the devaluation of the dollar.[20] " [/COLOR]

Ahhhhhh....nope! Still not seeing anything at all like this. Oh, and it seems the Web bot also pushed off its next big gloom and doom warning a couple weeks:

<font color="red"> November 17, 2010 - The web bot warns of a big tipping point, possibly World War III.[15] [/COLOR]

That used to be November 8, 2010.

And they admitted they got July 11, 2010 wrong on the Wiki page. And BTW, that prediction was orginially for a "major" terrorist attack. While there was an attack close to that time, no one would call that major, especially if compared to something like 9-11.

RMT
 
Back
Top