Hello...Past. I'm the Future.

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AstorVictor

Temporal Novice
Hello...Past. I\'m the Future.

Hello.
My name is Astor. I'm new at this, and by THIS, I mean typing. I've read many of the claims on this site by so called "Time Travelers." These people are imposters. I've travelled to the past for one reason, to learn from our mistakes. You see, I am a student at the University of
Wisconsin-Madison. I've come here from the year 2056 to write a paper on the greatest mistakes of the 21st century. One of the things I was curious about was the so-called "world wide web" or internet. I'm not sure what it's called now, but we have something close to your "www" called NfoTeK. You're wondering why I'm posting this on your website, well, I've been here for about 2 1/2 years. I haven't said anyting to anyone about my situation, because I'm not supposed to. But I think I'm going to anyway. During the 20's the Lunar Space Station was completed and people began to colonize the moon. Soon after we began to build the Earth-Moon transit system. In 2035 the US and Japanese governments began constucting a gaint ring (or hollow tube) in orbit around the moon. This tube called "HyperLink" is the key to Time Travel. How does it work you ask? Well, I really don't know the tech stuff behind it, because, well I'm just a college student not a scientist. But, I can tell you how I got here using it. In the late 40's it was commercialized by the world's upperclass and became available to the public...for the right price at least. My last days in 2056 was pretty nerve racking (I think that's the term you use.) I was issued a class III pass to try the HyperLink and was very excited. The day I was set to go, we (yes, there are more of us here) had to take off to the port terminal. Which is a station where people board the shuttle. The Shuttle is inside the tube (similar to a roller coaster) and takes about 15 minutes to arrive at the destanation. Once your belted in the shuttle takes orbit and travels very fast (time dilation)inside this tube. Once the speed has been reached everything slows for only a second and the shuttle is off. Heading towards Earth you don't even realize that it' 20 years later or 50 years earlier...whatever you've chosen. For example, Now in the year 2006 your spacecrafts that orbit earth travel at more than 17,000 miles/hr. If they were to stay in orbit for a year they would have jumped 5 mins. into the future.(time dilation)If your shuttles could travel 4,000 times faster you could leap 60,000 years into the future. In the present your fastest ship can only travel 25 miles/sec. nowhere near as fast as needed. The sound barrier was broken more than 100 years ago (or about 50 years ago from now.) All you need to do now is break the light barrier. If you travel faster than the speed of light you will tarvel backwards in time. In other words, imagine traveling as fast as a speeding bullet. As you accelerate to catch up with the bullet, time dilation will begin to occur. But when you reach the same speed as the bullet it would seem to stop in mid air, because time is flowing at the same rate for the bullet and us. Once you overtake the speed of light time begins to flow backwards. 186,000 miles/sec. is the speed needed to break the light barrier. OK, this is enough for today. If anyone needs more info, I'll check back in a couple days. -Astor Victor III
 
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Greetings Everyone,
Astor, here. Now I will give you some info about some upcoming events for everyone to watch for.
Feb. 2007 ----> Major eastern US blackout caused by snowstorm will leave 1/2 of NYC without power for 48hrs.
Apr. 2007 ----> Senator John Mclain suffers Heart Attack
Apr. 2007 ----> Major accomplishment in "Iraq Freedom" when 250,000 troops pulled out and sent home.
Jun. 2007 ----> Building begins on The Crystalline Tower, where your World Trade Centers used to be. And will be the tallest building in the world for 20 years.
Jul. 2007 ----> North Korea detonates nuclear device over Pacific Ocean.
Aug. 2007 ----> US invades North Korea with counterstrike missiles killing 100,000 Koreans before troops set foot on Korean soil.
Oct. 2007 ----> Stem Cell Research advancements proved to be the cure to countless viruses.
Nov. 2007 ----> Dr. Schwartzkoff of Switzerland produces first legal human clones used for replacing human organs, bones, and tissue.

All of these claims are from recorded history text books from my classes @ UW-Madison in 2055-56.
 
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AstorVictor,

One of the things I was curious about was the so-called "world wide web" or internet. I'm not sure what it's called now, but we have something close to your "www" called NfoTeK.
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You were sent here on a mission 2 1/2 years ago...and after all those 30 months you have to "guess" at the name we use for the Internet? Have you been living in a cave? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

For example, Now in the year 2006 your spacecrafts that orbit earth travel at more than 17,000 miles/hr. If they were to stay in orbit for a year they would have jumped 5 mins. into the future.(time dilation)
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Five minutes? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

How about ~0.01 seconds.

v = 17,000 mph = 4.72 mps

Gamma = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

If you're actually in Earth orbit the change is slightly (but vanishingly so) greater because you are in a gravitational field and we are assuming in both cases that the time dilation is relative to someone sitting on the surface of the Earth.

Gamma = 1.0000000003210041

1 yr = 365.25 days = 31,557,600.00 seconds

t' = (31,557,600 seconds * 1.0000000003210041) - 31557600 seconds = 0.0101299 seconds

At 17,000 mps you'd have to be traveling for about 2961.5 years before you'd experience a differential of 5 minutes.
 
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>>All you need to do now is break the light barrier.<<

Clear proof you're a teenager with no grasp of physical concepts.

My larger concern was how do you slow down a spaceship moving that fast?

Darby- where you been?
 
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Hey there sport, I think you ought to do a little homework before you make predictions:

"Apr. 2007 ----> Major accomplishment in "Iraq Freedom" when 250,000 troops pulled out and sent home."

I'm not quite sure how this can ever come to pass given that the current US troop levels in Iraq are only at 120,000. See here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33540-2005Jan24.html

And before you backpedal and claim that you meant more than just US troop levels, you need to know that no other country has nearly as many troops in Iraq as the US. So trying to claim that, say, the UK's troops make up the balance of your 250,000 prediction just won't wash. On another note, I think Senator John McCain would like you to learn how to spell his name. You don't live in Arizona, do you?
 
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jmpet,

Darby- where you been?
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I've been checking in daily but haven't been posting. Been working on some "admin stuff" at Anomalies and busy planning Christmas events at my lodge.
 
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jmpet,

>>All you need to do now is break the light barrier.<<

Clear proof you're a teenager with no grasp of physical concepts.

My larger concern was how do you slow down a spaceship moving that fast?
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Excellent points.

"Breaking" the light barrier is no mean feat. Other than the fact that the absolute maximum velocity in a vacuum is 186,000 mps, slowing down to stop at your destination takes exactly the same energy as it took to accelerate (to any velocity).

Brute force isn't going to cut the mustard. In his ring accelerator the maximum velocity of any forces used to accelerate his shuttle is light speed.

He didn''t say how its accomplished but I can imagine that he means that the shuttle might be accelerated by magnetic energy. As the shuttle passes the magnets they energize and repel his craft. Great! This works to some extent.

The problem is that as his craft begins to reach high velocities approaching c and his craft is moving away from the magnets aft of his craft the field energy is red shifted. Not only is his craft building up inertia that approaches infinity as his velocity approaches light speed, the strength of the repelling magnetic field, due to red shift (Doppler Shift) approaches zero, i.e. in the limit as velocity approaches c the inertia of the craft approaches infinity while the force used to further accelerate the craft approaches zero.

PS: I have to note that it seems that in the future, because every would-be time traveler makes the same mistakes, that the cirriculum at their universities no longer require undergrads to take any physical science courses to satisfy their general education requirements. Weird.

Even weirder - apparently no first generation time travelers have any science background. I've contended for a long time that the Lyndon B. Johnson Theory of Astronaut Training Minimum Requirements prevailed in their worlds. The Russians but a monkey into space as their first living astronaut. Johnson wanted to do one better. He figured that professional wrestlers and "jollopy" car racers should be our first astronauts: No risk to highly skilled university educated scientists or military aviators but a no frills minimally educated human with some athletic skills would be a step up from a primate.
 
A bunch of questions.

Q1)
Is art more popular in your time line with respect to sports?

Q2)
Is gold big in the future and when does the boom start.

Q3)
John Titor said that the divergence factor is 2% between time lines in 1975 and that there was a possible split in the time line in that era? What is the divergence now? This will show how different our time lines are!

Q4)
Have you figured out the major differences between our time line and yours? John Titor said he could notice a few things.

Q5)
From what you learned as a time traveler do you agree that free will is an illusion in which we choose a door, which results in our fate?

Q6)
By changing our future in this timeline will it change your future in your timeline?

Q7)
Will Canada and Mexico join the US into one continental country?

Q8)
If there is a crash in the US will a new currency be create for the country where the old currency is used for international affairs?

Q9)
What kind of music do you have?

Q10)
Is the environment better?

Q11)
Have Aliens been confirmed yet?

Q12)
Will there be an economical crash due to the US federal deficit?



Could you answer YES/NO or short answers? Thx.
 
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All of these claims are from recorded history text books from my classes @ UW-Madison in 2055-56.
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Did your great history book mention Pres Ford's death? Your credibility would've held up somewhat better if you mentioned that, perhaps instead of McCain's heart attack. I find it difficult to believe a history book would fail to document an historical event such as a former president's death. Of course I'm sure you will conjure up a reason for not revealing such news.
 
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Really, I am new Here and just wanted to chip in a few lines about TIME...I want to emphasize that I am beginning to see that there is no such thing as TIME.Only that Location may Change and the NEURALLY RECORDED CHANGES cause us to compare one change to another so we call it time.The lines are longer than these but I am just giving the following lines a Try...

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I can Call our ABSOLUTE TIME OVERTIME or ARCHTIME.Hypothetically, Its an energy field.
It is a LOCATIONAL 'WAVE' FRONT in ALL DIRECTIONS at ONCE just like your typical RIPPLE caused by stone dropped in water.
But Here, we are talking of a 3DM wavefront...A SPHERICAL EXPANSION having an origin at a SINGLE ( Point?);A river flowing from WITHIN to OUTER (resulting to a 4-DM since an independent observer cannot see the initial INNERS due to perpetual surfacial expansion in all + x-y-z coordinates per time...) and EXPANDING in all DIRECTIONS at THE SAME PACE.(Note-Not time).In fact, our Sun appears to come to our aid here.Its is churning out Massive amounts of Energy YET it is still EXPANDING.LOCATIONAL CHANGE is like that.Our Hypothetical SPHERE too.
Now imagine you were INTRINSICALLY part of that EXPANDING sphere or perhaps a painting on its face.How would you know it were Expanding?You would never.(note this hypothetical sphere has no other reference object outside it)Even if you knew it were expanding, you could not measure it because your Instruments also are part of the system.For example our sun measure nature.If nature changes, the solar cycles would also change according to this hypothesis(I believe).For example, if the sun heats up a metal, the metal expands.It changes in DIRECT response to nature, in this case-sunshine.That metal is part of nature too...So our sun cycles will change if nature does change because IT IS PART OF NATURE AND WILL NOT BE SEPARATED FROM IT.
Now , if on (inside) that expanding spherical face you luckily have a way of observing other objects (inside the face) in relative motion to you...You surely knew they were in relative motion to you because A NEW STATE OF AWARENESS OR CONSCIOUSNESS IS REFRESHED UPON YOUR MIND AT CERTAIN INTERVALS OR CYCLES just like the Optical Sampling of the Human eyes is FIXED...So I can say ,These CYCLE or SIGNAL INTERVALS give us an AWARENESS of CHANGE we call time.Now note, according to the foregone statement,there were no time ...only that THE UPDATING of the INFORMATION of that Relatively Moving object (to you) tells you of a NEW OCCURENCE due to LOCATIONAL CHANGE.That INFORMATION given to you PAINTS a picture of 'TIME'.The picture is a LAYERING, it is not linear but BUILDS OUTWARD in all direction like the Annual rings of a tree...In fact its your NEURAL LAYERS! So we may say (albeit prematurely) that TIME is PERCEIVED.IT IS A PERCEPTION .Note well that If there were no perception,TIME CEASES TO EXIST.Now,THAT PERCEPTION IS PERSONAL.
TIME comes from the change caused by the interaction of the moving object with ENERGY FIELD.When there is a CHANGE of LOCATION WITHIN that field, NEW SETS OF SIGNALS ARE GENERATED and transmitted in ALL DIRECTONS.We ACKNOWLEDGE THESE signals VIA our NEURAL Systems.In essence without signals there is no time;.So I may say THERE IS ONLY RECORDED MOTION IN ENERGY FIELD and there is NO 'TIME'.
Now there is another type of sampling (ticking) like those of your wall clock.It has been conducted in an experment that a fellow in a fast moving vehicle experiences less time as also supported by the READINGS of a TIMER on the vessel.Surely,He really did not spend less time.He only sampled lesser number of the ENERGY FIELD (OVERTIME,the outward flowing spherical face described in lines above).He only EXISTED a fewer number of times.If your rate of change is faster than that of OVERTIME,Some of your atomic make up were converted to energy field (OVERTIME).This conversion of you to overtime masks the power of overtime to account for you. Since overtime is the decider of your existence,those times you were faster than it, it cannot account for, so at those times,you did not exist.
 
Oh, in extension

Cooking on a stove in a hot afternoon sunshine will be longer in duration than cooking in a shaded corner in the same afternoon period.This is TRUE and PROVEN.Why is it so?Simple answer.Its because of BACKGROUND HEAT MASKING.Personally I have tried it and its true.For example when I cook in the afternoon daylight it is slower than when done at cold midnight.-Background heat masking.The explanation is simple.In both cases, your Electric current,stove, cooking materials and utensils,all are CONSTANT except one thing...The environmental heat level were DIFFERENT.(DIFFERING ENERGY FIELD LEVEL....)So when I fire my stove to 100 Degree Kelvin in the afternoon and the sun or environment is 45 degree Kelvin, The amount of heat pumped into my cooking is mere ((100-45) Degree Kelvin) = 55 Degree Kelvin.However at night,the temperature is lower say 20 Degree Kelvin and I fire up my Stove at 100 Degree Kelvin just like in the afternoon.Whoa what happens?I have pumped (100 - 20) = 80 degree Kelvin of heat into my cooking.Now, to be honest, which is greater ?55 of the afternoon or 80 of the night?Piece o' cake.So thats the BACKGROUND HEAT MASKING we're talkin about...Just like vectors in different direction, they cancel out each other (heat field here).The same BACKGROUND HEAT MASKING could be utilised to explain the reason why TIME SLOWS DOWN on a fast object.Infact that time slows down is not the greatest thing to learn but that ACCELERATION alters RATES of CHANGE.Time is just a type of Rates of change...So. When nature changes, the envirommnet also changes.The TIMER in that fast vessel would only have responded to enviromental changes.
 
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Many have predicted Ford's death in the last year, but after annoucing he was very sick in January. The only thing that would of been accepted by a time traveler is the exact date of his death 6 months ago.
 
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origen2g,

In fact, our Sun appears to come to our aid here.Its is churning out Massive amounts of Energy YET it is still EXPANDING.
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Well, its not quite "expanding" yet. It is pulsating. Sol is currently on the Main Sequence. It is under the influence of a balancing act between gravitational dynamics which causes it to contract and thermal dynamics which causes it to expand.

In about 4 billion years Sol will use up most of the hydrogen by converting it to helium. At that point the solar "furnace" will cool briefly and the star will start to collapse. This will heat it up again as it begins to fuse hydrogen, helium and some other light elements into carbon and iron. When that process is complete the fuel is exhausted. Sol will expand to the Red Giant stage and incinerate Mercury, Venus and the Earth. Thereafter it will collapse to the White Dwarf stage where it will remain for tens of billions of years (unless it eventually collides with a star from the Andromeda Galaxy when it "collides" with the Milky Way. Sol could then regain sufficient hydrogen to flare up again into a new star. If Sol takes on sufficient mass so that it has something more than twice its current mass it will eventually supernova and form a black hole.

Its no surprise that Sol is going to expand or that it is pulsating. This is stellar mechanics at work.

Now imagine you were INTRINSICALLY part of that EXPANDING sphere or perhaps a painting on its face.How would you know it were Expanding?

You would never.
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Sure you can. You could measure galactic redshift and/or the cooling of the cosmic background radiation. That's how we currently measure the metric expansion of space. I think that Hubble and de Sitter figured this out in about 1931. Something about "Hubble's Law".

It's true that at this point in time we can't directly measure the expansion of space itself but such dynamic events do leave evidence.
 
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Thanks for the response.
Redshift itself according to the hypothesis is also made up of 3-dm particles and is subject to the 4-dm Pulsation(?) I am attempting to theoretise.If you measured redshift (Doppler?) here, its like using a SINGLE POINT on a LINE VECTOR to DETERMINE the DIRECTION of the LINE VECTOR...You need at least TWO POINTS having locational difference to do that...So Doppler Effect (= redshift?)is a victim of this expansion (Pulsation?) here.Not sure if you have heard of the UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE (Not that I really grasp it fully too)But it seems I can easily describe it in the following lines scenario.
NOw, we can measure objects since our instruments (say Electron microscope) relies on the physical properties of the DETECTORS (E.g Light Photons or even electrons itself) to RETRIEVE information about the targetted Object (Say atoms) being measured.Now When it comes to the electron itself, how can you completely measure or DESCRIBE it? You can ONLY NOTE its EFFCETS just like "time".Since the electron microscope itself relies on the PRECISION of THAT SAME ELECTRON. Therefore we would need a material with FINER desirable physical properties to measure and describe an Electron.Now how about measuring that smaller material?Just like the case of the electron, we would be needing another more precise material...Now how can Hubble USE OPTICS to measure the activity of a material from which it was (to say the least) Derived (like the electron microscope)?Now lets say that a material called TIMEON exists and is composed of materials with FINER granularity than the electron or even Light PHOTONS...HUBBLE would really be a dumb instrument...

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The scenario Above I believe, provides a glimpse into the problem of the redshift reliability.

Please do you know about Einstein's Geodetic explanation of Gravity and Gravitational Field?Was wondering if
 
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origen2g,

Thanks for the response.
Redshift itself according to the hypothesis is also made up of 3-dm particles and is subject to the 4-dm Pulsation(?) I am attempting to theoretise.If you measured redshift (Doppler?) here, its like using a SINGLE POINT on a LINE VECTOR to DETERMINE the DIRECTION of the LINE VECTOR...{snip}
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Uncertanty aside, you can still determine whether or not your spacetime is expanding even if you can't determine to an arbitrary degree of precision the extent of that expansion.

Heisenberg's Uncertanty Principle of quantum mechanics doesn't rule out in any way your ability to make measurements. It only rules out the degree to which you can ultimately quantify the precision of the measurements. On the cosmic scale expansion can be very well approximated using Classical Mechanics.
 
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Yeah, yeah Old Hand. Correct. You are VERY correct.
However, I am NOT leaning on the evidence of The Uncertainty Principle at all to advance my Cause at this point in time but the plausibility of Logicality found in the 'small' Illustration concerning the determination and complete description of the electron; which was chipped in the latter portion of the post.

You may also attempt to look into statements like the following.
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"Now , if on (inside) that expanding spherical face you luckily have a way of observing other objects (inside the face) in relative motion to you...You surely knew they were in relative motion to you because A NEW STATE OF AWARENESS OR CONSCIOUSNESS IS REFRESHED UPON YOUR MIND AT CERTAIN INTERVALS OR CYCLES just like the Optical Sampling of the Human eyes is FIXED (Persistence of Vision ,e.t..c)...So I can say ,These CYCLE or SIGNAL INTERVALS give us an AWARENESS of CHANGE we call time. Now note, according to the foregone statement, there were no time ...only that THE UPDATING of the INFORMATION of that Relatively Moving object (to you) tells you of a NEW OCCURENCE due to LOCATIONAL CHANGE.That INFORMATION given to you PAINTS a picture of 'TIME’. The picture is a LAYERING, it is not linear but BUILDS OUTWARD in all direction like the Annual rings of a tree...In fact its your NEURAL LAYERS! So we may say (albeit prematurely) that TIME is PERCEIVED. IT IS A PERCEPTION .Note well that If there were no perception, TIME CEASES TO EXIST.Now,THAT PERCEPTION IS PERSONAL."
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Standard Theory of Physics is OK with me but I'm attempting to do some ‘exploits’ in ‘amateur’ alternative Science here…so please can you patiently bear with me? So you can already perceive my dilemma? It seems You really have not really begun with helping out with ‘answering ‘.Would have been so glad you did. Cheers

HELP!HELP!!
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For additional example on relationship between Time and Existence of an object:
If the LENGTH of a speeding Aircraft is SHORTENED for OBSERVER and the LENGTH of the OBSERVER is SHORTENED in the View of the OBSERVED (Him in the Speeding Aircraft) do you think the SHORTENING described in the view of both OBSERVER and OBSERVED is IMAGINARY or REAL? Please Mark well that SHORTENING is DEFINED SINGLY on MOTION DIFFERENCE between Observed and Observer.tHANX 4 that answer.
 
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origen2g,

Frankly I couldn't make heads or tails of the last part of the post. It appears that you've made up some jargon but haven't defined the terms.

In any case, you have a big problem with your granularity issue. Even if we suppose that there are an arbitrary number of smaller and smaller particles (as measured by their wavelength at this scale) you still run up against the Wave-Particle Duality problem.

Once you're dealing with wavelengths and energies on the quantum scale waves begin to act like particles. If you attempt to measure one object with another object that is more finely grained you end up shooting tiny "bullets" of very dense energy at velocities near the speed of light at your object to be measured. Instead of measuring it you perturb it...it bounces away (elastic collision) or the two objects fuse (inelastic collision). In each case the mass, velocity, momentum, location, etc. of the target at the instant of the "measurement" can only be indirectly estimated after the collision.

There is a limit to the scale where you can make accurate measurements. Getting the scale smaller (finer grained) only serves to make your measurements more indeterminate.
 
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>>TIME is PERCEIVED.IT IS A PERCEPTION .Note well that If there were no perception,TIME CEASES TO EXIST.Now,THAT PERCEPTION IS PERSONAL.<<

I will have to disagree with this for the sake of this argument. On one hand, if the universe unfolded with no life whatsoever in it, you could say the universe is moot... irrelevant.

However, we became self-aware beings some 14 billion years into the universe's existence. When we became self-aware, we looked out and saw 14 billion years-worth of history all around us.

The question is: did our observing the universe cause the universe to come into being, or is the universe here whether or not we're in it?

If we are the only life in the universe and if we nuked ourselves to extinction, would the universe continue to exist after we're gone? I would have to say yes- mostly because we already percieved the universe.

The problem with this question and answer is that we are now in the realm of existentialism.

The only summation I can offer is that while the universe may not have existed until we were able to percieve it, regardless- we came about through a logical process that took 14 billion years to unfold... we would not be here unless "the unseen universe" came before us. As such, the universe around us really exists.

(NOTE: The converse argument to this is "Every person in the world lives in their own universe" and this is Rainman talk. If this is true, then if I decided to find you and kill you, you should be able to stop me with brain power. And for that matter, food should magically appear in front of you with brain power too whenever you wanted it... this is not reality.)

>>TIME comes from the change caused by the interaction of the moving object with ENERGY FIELD.<<

While I can easily agree with this I also ask- if there is a relationship between time and energy then how should we classify the Oort Cloud?

>>When there is a CHANGE of LOCATION WITHIN that field, NEW SETS OF SIGNALS ARE GENERATED and transmitted in ALL DIRECTONS.We ACKNOWLEDGE THESE signals VIA our NEURAL Systems.In essence without signals there is no time;.So I may say THERE IS ONLY RECORDED MOTION IN ENERGY FIELD and there is NO 'TIME'.<<

This I disagree with. If time exists... or whatever we all agree time is, is based on things that encompass every part of the universe. As such, any change (which would result as "more time") must connect to every other part of the universe. "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe" -Sagan

Any change within any field will affect all other fields everywhere else. As far as recorded motion in energy, once again what is the Oort Cloud? A trillion bits of flying debris, all very near absolute zero. "Well since it is so cold and inert, is it still there?" Ask the dinosaurs.

As we observe an object in motion, it appears to be getting larger. What we don't see is the other half of that object getting smaller. Well, since any object "gets larger" and "gets smaller" at the same ratio, it is conserved. It's not "changing" as much as "traversing".

>>Now , if on (inside) that expanding spherical face you luckily have a way of observing other objects (inside the face) in relative motion to you.<<

For a mind experiment, let's use a Dyson Sphere: a hollow sphere the diameter of the orbit of the Earth around the sun- this is the interior spherical face. Standing inside a Dyson Sphere you would look up and see China. Looking down there is the floor and underneath that (or "outside") is space.

>>A NEW STATE OF AWARENESS OR CONSCIOUSNESS IS REFRESHED UPON YOUR MIND AT CERTAIN INTERVALS OR CYCLES just like the Optical Sampling of the Human eyes is FIXED (Persistence of Vision ,etc).<<

When? When you go to sleep? When you blink? This is where I disagree- the universe around us exists whether we're in it or not. The fact that existence exists is proof that existence exists. Research "Planck Units".

>>So I can say ,These CYCLE or SIGNAL INTERVALS give us an AWARENESS of CHANGE we call time.<<

I disagree in two different ways. First is conservation- nothing ever "changes" and secondly, it is possible to see change- stare at an ice cube at room temperature. Then put a second ice cube in a closed box. Did the second ice cube melt?

>>THE UPDATING of the INFORMATION of that Relatively Moving object (to you) tells you of a NEW OCCURENCE due to LOCATIONAL CHANGE. That INFORMATION given to you PAINTS a picture of 'TIME’.<<

I see where you're going with this, but you're wording it poorly. For example, we watch a spaceship inside the Dyson Sphere going from A to B. We have nothing to gague its speed against since we're inside a Dyson Sphere, as such the spaceship becomes "time" because it's the only thing we see moving from A to B. If we took successive pictures of the spaceship it would not be an indicator of speed unless we knew the spance of time between each picture (i.e. "24 frames per second").

This does not mean that the spaceship represents time, it only means the ship is in motion. You didn't take into account that there must be "one time" everywhere inside the Dyson Sphere. In this case, that "one time" is the Sphere itself.

We can't say that we measure time by the spaceship because we don't. We measure time by the Dyson Sphere. If the Earth blew up tomorrow, Earth time would also end.

>>The picture is a LAYERING, it is not linear but BUILDS OUTWARD in all direction like the Annual rings of a tree...In fact its your NEURAL LAYERS!<<

No it's not- for every part that increases, there is an equal part that decreases. The net-effect of this is akin to a dot on your screen going from left to right- the dot is not actually moving, a series of lights are being switched on and off and we percieve this as motion. Planck Units.

>>So we may say (albeit prematurely) that TIME is PERCEIVED. IT IS A PERCEPTION .Note well that If there were no perception, TIME CEASES TO EXIST.Now,THAT PERCEPTION IS PERSONAL."<<

I disagree. If I went back in a time machine and killed your grandfather, would the universe cease to exist because your personal perception no longer exists? The universe exists, we also exist- somewhere within the universe.

>>Standard Theory of Physics is OK with me but I'm attempting to do some ‘exploits’ in ‘amateur’ alternative Science here…so please can you patiently bear with me?<<

This is mostly existentialism you're talking about- your research should start there. I'm sure there's some online Descartes that will bake your noodle if you get into it.

>>If the LENGTH of a speeding Aircraft is SHORTENED for OBSERVER<<

The only way a speeding aircraft could be percieved to get "shorter" is if it's slowing down as it approaches- in other words coming towards you.

>>and the LENGTH of the OBSERVER is SHORTENED in the View of the OBSERVED<<

The only way the people in that ship could look out and percieve anything getting "shorter" is if that thing is coming towards that ship at an even greater speed, which makes this illogical- this is an impossible view:

-Object A is approaching B and slowing down as it approaches.
-Object B is speeding up as it approaches A.

Try picturing this.

PS- It's easier on the eyes of you space out your thoughts.
 
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